Greenplum
Analysis of data warehouse DBMS vendor Greenplum and its successor, EMC’s Data Computing division. Related subjects include:
- EMC, which bought Greenplum in 2010
- Data warehousing
- Data warehouse appliances
- PostgreSQL
Estimating user data vs. spinning disk
There’s a lot of confusion about how to measure data warehouse database size. Major complicating factors include:
- Indexes and temporary working space. That’s what I emphasized a couple of years ago in my post about Expansion Ratios.
- Compression. I write about database compression a lot.
- Disk redundancy. I usually gloss over that one, but I’ll try to make amends in this post.
- Replication other than that which is primarily designed for redundancy. I usually gloss over that one too, and I think it’s safe to continue doing so. That’s because data warehouse replication – at least in most of the system architectures I know of – generally divides into three categories:
- a lot like redundancy
- a lot like an index
- only a minor issue (e.g., when small fact tables are replicated across each node of an MPP cluster)
Greenplum’s CTO Luke Lonergan recently walked me through the general disk usage arithmetic for Greenplum’s most common configuration (Sun Thors*, configured to Raid 10). I found it pretty interesting, and a good guide to factors that also affect other systems, from other vendors.
Are analytic DBMS vendors overcomplicating their interconnect architectures?
I don’t usually spend a lot of time researching Ethernet switches. But I do think a lot about high-end data warehousing, and as I noted back in July, networking performance is a big challenge there. Among the very-large-scale MPP data warehouse software vendors, Greenplum is unusual in that its interconnect of choice is (sufficiently many) cheap 1 gigabit Ethernet switches.
A recent Network World story suggested that Greenplum wasn’t alone in this preference; other people also feel that clusters of commodity 1 gigabit Ethernet switches can be superior to higher-performing ones. So I pinged CTO Luke Lonergan of Greenplum for more comment. His response, which I got permission to publish, was: Read more
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Vertica’s paying customer count
In a recent Computerworld article, Andy Ellicott of Vertica was cited as saying Vertica has 50 paying customers total. That’s very much on par with Greenplum’s figure, leaving aside any questions of deal size. (Greenplum runs a number of databases much larger than Vertica’s biggest. However, I believe Greenplum also charges a lot less per terabyte of user data.)
Previous Vertica paying customer count figures include:
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MapReduce sound bites
Last Thursday, both Greenplum and Aster Data — the two most recent of my numerous data warehouse specialist customers — both told me of the same major innovation. Both were rushing to announce it first, before anybody else did. This led to considerable tap dancing, with the upshot being that both are releasing the information tonight or tomorrow morning.
What’s going on is that Aster Data and Greenplum have both integrated MapReduce into their respective MPP shared-nothing data warehouse DBMS. Read more
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Greenplum’s single biggest customer
Greenplum offered a bit of clarification regarding the usage figures I posted last night. Everything on the list is in production, except that:
- One Greenplum customer is at 400 terabytes now, and upgrading to >1 petabyte “as we speak.”
- Greenplum’s other soon-to-be >1 petabyte customer isn’t in production yet. (Greenplum previously told me that customer was in the process of loading data right now.)
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Greenplum is in the big leagues
After a March, 2007 call, I didn’t talk again with Greenplum until earlier this month. That changed fast. I flew out to see Greenplum last week and spent over a day with president/co-founder Scott Yara, CTO/co-founder Luke Lonergan, marketing VP Paul Salazar, and product management/marketing director Ben Werther. Highlights – besides some really great sushi at Sakae in Burlingame – start with an eye-opening set of customer proof points, such as: Read more
| Categories: Analytic technologies, Data warehouse appliances, Data warehousing, Greenplum, Petabyte-scale data management, PostgreSQL | 19 Comments |
My current customer list among the data warehouse specialists
One of my favorite pages on the Monash Research website is the list of many current and a few notable past customers. (Another favorite page is the one for testimonials.) For a variety of reasons, I won’t undertake to be more precise about my current customer list than that. But I don’t think it would hurt anything to list the data warehouse DBMS/appliance specialists in the group. They are:
- Aster Data
- Calpont
- DATAllegro
- Greenplum
- Infobright
- Netezza
- ParAccel
- Teradata
- Vertica
All of those are Monash Advantage members.
If you care about all this, you may also be interested in the rest of my standards and disclosures.
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Netezza update
In my usual dual role, I called Phil Francisco of Netezza to lay some post-Microsoft/DATAllegro consulting on him late on a Friday night — and then took the opportunity of being on the phone with him to get a general Netezza update. Netezza’s July quarter just ended, so they’re still in quiet period, so I didn’t press him for a lot of numerical detail. More generally, I didn’t find a lot out that wasn’t already covered in my May Netezza update. But notwithstanding all those disclaimers, it was still a pretty interesting chat. Read more
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How will Oracle save its data warehouse business?
By acquiring DATAllegro, Microsoft has seriously leapfrogged Oracle in data warehouse technology. All doubts about maturity and versatility notwithstanding, DATAllegro has a 10X or better size advantage (actually, I think it’s more like 20-40X) versus Oracle in warehouses its technology can straightforwardly handle. Oracle cannot afford to let this move go unanswered.
It’s of course possible that Oracle has been successfully developing comparable data warehouse technology internally. But it’s unlikely. Oracle hasn’t done anything that radical, internally and successfully, for about 15 years, RAC (Real Application Clusters) excepted. (I.e., since the object/relational extensibility framework started in Release 7.) So in all likelihood, the answer will come via acquisition. I think there are four candidates that make the most sense: Teradata, Vertica, ParAccel, and Greenplum. Kognitio (controlled by former Oracle honcho Geoff Squire) might be in the mix as well. Netezza is probably a non-starter because of its hardware-centric strategy.
Here’s why I’m emphasizing Teradata, Vertica, ParAccel, and Greenplum: Read more
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Positioning the data warehouse appliances and specialty DBMS
There now are four hardware vendors that each offer or seem about to announce two different tiers of data warehouse appliances: Sun, HP, EMC, and Teradata. Specifically:
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Sun partners with both Greenplum and ParAccel.
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HP sells Neoview, and also is partnered with Vertica.
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EMC (together with Dell in North America and Bull in Europe) sells DATAllegro. Now EMC is also entering a partnership with ParAccel.
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Teradata is pretty far down the road toward releasing a low-end product.