February 26, 2009
HP and Neoview update
I had lunch with some HP folks at TDWI. Highlights (burgers and jokes aside) included:
- HP’s BI consulting (especially the former Knightsbridge) and analytic product groups (including Neoview) are now tightly integrated.
- HP is trying to develop and pitch “solutions” where it has particular “intellectual property.” This IP can come from ordinary product engineering or internal use, because HP Labs serves both sides of the business. Specific examples offered included:
- Telecom. Apparently, HP made specialized data warehouse devices for CDRs (Call Detail Records) long ago, and claims this has been area of particular expertise ever since.
- Supply chain – based on HP’s internal experiences.
- Customer relationship – ditto
- The main synergy suggested between consulting and Neoview is that HP’s experts work on talking buyers into such a complex view of their requirements that only Neoview (supposedly) can fit the bill.
- HP insists there are indeed new Neoview sales.
- Neoview sales seem to be concentrated in what Aster might call “frontline” applications — i.e., low latency, OLTP-like uptime requirements, etc.
- HP says it did an actual 80 TB POC. I asked whether this was for an 80 TB app or something a lot bigger, but didn’t get a clear answer.
Given the emphasis on trying to exploit HP’s other expertise in the data warehousing business, I suggested it was a pity that HP spun off Agilent (HP’s instrumentation division, aka HP Classic). Nobody much disagreed.
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They sell the Database Machine via Oracle and made a big fuss about it. I would have expected that Neoview would be on the way out. Maybe not. But how do they sell to customers vs Exadata ….
Lots of vendors have product lines and associated messages that compete with each other.
There seems to be little knowledge about HP Neoview in the market yet. Some basic facts: Neoview is a data warehouse appliance which is built on a massive parallel processing architecture (MPP), pretty much like Teradata. The basic components are well proven, as Neoview runs NonStop OS as the operating system and a modified version of NonStop SQL as the database. HP NonStop systems are used by many customers worldwide and are known for linear scalability and extreme reliability.
We tested Neoview and it was a complete failure compared to teradata and even netezza…